Monday, October 7, 2013

Rousseau's Ribbon Story (Extra Credit)

As part of my introduction to Rousseau, I retell his "ribbon story."  I have to shorten things up quite a bit, and my cartoon version may be a bit misleading.  Please read the original version of the ribbon story and
compare it to the version of the story I told in class.  How does reading the original version of the story add to your impressions of Rousseau?  Do you find yourself more sympathetic to him or less sympathetic to him?  Does the version of the story I told you in class seem close enough to the original, or do you think that students definitely should read the original version and draw their own conclusions?

14 comments:

  1. Roy Reese: The story told in class seems to be more towards antagonizing Rousseau. After reading the actual story, I have more sympathy towards Rousseau as a person. Although I disagree with his actions, at least he has an explanation behind them. I belive that people should read the original, and derive their own opinion and compare and contrast with others interperetations.

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  2. Andrea Hilgedick: It's sad that he didn't care to tell the truth on who actually took the ribbon. He didn't seem to care that others' had feelings. He just did as he pleased without caring about consequences. That is truly sad.
    There wasn't much difference reading it than hearing it in class. The words on the page are just words recording the events that happened- the mistake he made.

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  3. Dakota Feller: I like the story in class better than the the original. I like the fact that in class we go straight to the point while here he kind of takes a while to really tell us all of what happened. Plus in class we were asked questions so we were all thinking and guessing as to what happened next

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  4. The story in class made Rousseau seem like just an all around bad guy. The way he tells it in his book, to me I still find him a complete schmuck. He says he regets his actions, but he never does anything to act on those actions that he is regreting. He doesn't go and find out what happened to the girls or help after the fact.
    Trent Dean

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  5. Meridian Broussard: My feelings stay the same, Rousseau was a small annoying child in a grown man's body. Although, he felt some remorse after the deed was done it still does not change the fact that the poor girl was punished because of him and suffred more than he did.

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  6. Kaitlynn Loos: I still find Rousseau to be a man who was all around not a good guy. He regrets what he has done, which is natural for most humans. However, what makes us good people is that we change our ways based off our regrets. The fact that he didn't try to better himself is what makes my opinion go and stay south.

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  7. To be honest, your cartoon version that you told in class was far more interesting than the original story. Rousseau tries to explain how his consciousnesses aches because of the trouble he pinned on Marion, especially in the last few paragraphs. Reading the original adds more of Rousseau's sentiment and shame to his side of the argument, perhaps how sorry he felt afterwards, but somehow I still don't feel like that makes him a "good" person." Then again, nobody is a truly "good" person.

    Chris Sejnoha

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  8. Andrew Wegner: After reading this I feel like Rousseau really feels bad about what he did. The only reason he acused her of stealing the ribbion was because she was the first person he thought about. I thought he would be a man that's proud of his twisted ways but in a way he's discused with himself.

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  9. I did not get to experience the story in western civilization. I do not really know what to make of it. He stole the ribbon, was caught red handed, and blamed Marion. Rousseau feels reget and sadness for doing this. He says it robbed his innocence. I find it interesting how he said that we often blame people that come to the mind first. Very psychological.

    - Grant Yungwirth

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  10. The shortened story of Rousseau in class was very simplified of how he felt. I did not know that he regreted his actions until reading the confession. He doesn't actually change anything or care too much about what happened to the girl which shows that he isn't a good person

    Collin Fransen

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  11. Donavan Soulek: I thought the story in class was more of a summary/ story. In the reading he talked about more about what he was thinking. I like the story on the website because it shows what he was thinking every minute.

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  12. Rousseau seems more sympathetic in the text because he's telling it. He appears to express intense regret and remorse at his actions, but this could be a total falsity. What the truth really is about his feelings is unknown. I think the in-class story is about as well, as the reliability of the information is about the same. It is known that he committed the action, yet his feelings cannot be proven. The weakness of his will in that he would avoid shame rather than giving the truth shows that he would lie unless he changed much in his older years.

    - Cody McCoy

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  13. I really liked the story in class better because it was short and sweet. It got to the point right away and did not drag on forever. I actually understood the story in class. It was a neat little story because I do not get how could anyone notice that a ribbon is gone? Rosseau seems like he is a goody goody because he is telling the story from his point of view to make himself look good. He was also a very mean person, a thief and a liar, and a very dishonest person in whatever he does.

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  14. I like the story from class better because it's easier to understand, short and sweet, yet right to the point. The original online takes forever to read and talks a lot of nonsense we don't need to fathom what happened. Rousseau seems like a nice person when telling the story himself, but in all reality, he is still a rude, dishonest their and that is not going to change anytime soon.

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